Mike McBride is pastor of The Way Christian Center in Berkeley. He’s also the Director of Urban Strategies for the PICO National Network of progressive, faith-based organizations.

Pastor McBride spoke with KALW's Judy Silber and Hana Baba about how he came to combine religion with social justice work. We started off by asking him about his personal faith.

The system is mean and evil and it is addicted to the blood and suffering of black bodies.
— Pastor Mike McBride

To listen to the complete interview click the audio player above.